It's Prime Time ... We at Banshee are really excited to see pieces of the new Banshee Full Suspension 29er showing up at the factory. After seeing the drawing in 2-D and then 3-D it is nice to be able to see some actual pieces.
Keith (Banshee Engineer/Owner) has been in Taiwan for that last week and will be here for another two weeks to make sure that the Prime goes together the way he envisioned it. He will also be doing a lot of the 2011 product quality control.
All of the bits will get pieced together later in the week and I will get Keith to put together a more detailed explanation of the Prime and his thoughts behind the design.
Adjustable Dropouts - will be available in 10x135 and 12x150.
Linkage - will be connected with full titanium axles on sealed bearings
B.B. Shell and Main Pivot - similar to what is used on the Rune, Spitfire and Rampant
Shock Mount - also similar to some of the current Banshee models.
We should have some more complete pictures soon, so stay tuned!
-Keep Riding.
Rob Dunnet
Brandon Sloan form Specialized has worked with the idea and he can tell you that the numbers are not there for DH.
the big wheel only has an advantage on the open parts of a course. The speed on turns and the amount of power that takes to get the bike back to momentum speed is not there.
This bike is great if you have not developed the skill to ride the 26er!
If you are a new to the sport and want to ride tame or easy trails, this bike is for you!
This bike has the JRA factor (just ridding along)
Goes great over obstacles at slow speeds!
We all agree! Its a great bike for beginner riders!
In my opinion this new KS-Link-Suspensiondesign could be a very big step ahead for Banshee - imagine different Travelsettings via Shockmount, imagine different Geosettings independent from Travelsettings via Dropouts, even different chainstaylengths could be realised with them!
Dreaming of a Wildcard with all these attributes ...
also, travel adjustment from the 130 say maybe 160mm would be nice. i can see a lot of folks (myself included) wanting to run the dorado 29 on this bike (not so much for travel but for increased stiffness and tire clearance. as the 140 reba has pretty tight clearance with a 2.5 and that is a tire size that would make sense on this bike) and a longer travel setting would better match the long legs of the dorado...
No matter how much we all love 3D Cad, you have to know where it came from, and why it is useful too.
1/ Model the frame parts in 3D
2/ Assemble the frame parts into a 3D model of the frame
3/ Peform analysis on the 3D model (rear end motion, shock rates, finite element analysis, ...)
3/ Produce the 2D drawings from the 3D models
4/ Cut CNC parts, manufacture tubes, weld, assemble
Basically - the 2D drawings are created from the 3D model. Keith is as up to date with his processes as anybody.
Not to mention - system is not based on linkage looks but on axle paths and leverage ratios. It's only Santa Cruz pattent trolling that gives us a very broad pattent on the vpp
this style of drop out allowing you to change from 135 and 150 rear ends is common among many brands.
Just commenting on how companies are copying each other and there seems to be an absence of new ideas lately.
Also there was more innovation 5+ years ago because the designers knew less, they made more mistakes and that means many wild designs. When everybody catches up with what works of course there will be less innovation. Look at any market. I'm pretty sure you don't complain there is less innovation in cars compared to the 1920's
Why-o-why no 135x12 and Syntace X12 dropout as well?
Cheers!
I.