2010 Banshee Legend MKII - Spy Shots by home-team

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riggadon (Feb 22, 2010 at 9:54)

that looks really nice, i love the black/green paint job

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ktmpaul111 (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:14)

yeah... the green and black looks so mean

benjiscott82 (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:34)

^^ il second that! the white/red doesnt loook half bad either Smile

good work!

editor (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:43) (Below Threshold) show comment

I want one of green one... Big Grin

badgermeister (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:51)

loving the black and green. sexual! and wipe clean ;-)

bigburd (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:12)

When I seen the 1st pics of this bike i was not exactly blown away , but in the painted options it makes them a whole lot tastier Smile

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ncrider5 (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:28)

hell yeah with the double barrel too, nicest shock you can buy

dave6797 (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:40)

looks like a vpp linkage on the bottom pivots

rawf85 (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:06)

is hard to tell the exact geometry of the bike, but the head angle looks really long... 64 maybe?

VTwintips (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:32)

reminds me of a demo a lot.

WestCoastRider7 (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:47)

how? if anything, more like a canfield jedi... well anyways, sick frame eh

riggadon (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:03)

i think he means how the shock is placed

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:38)

for more information on geometry and sizes
http://www.bansheebikes.com
http://www.bansheebikes.blogspot.com

AC-92 (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:23)

never been much of a fan of banshee,
until now!
that frame is slick as feck!

GoxBoxSocks (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:43)

its parallel linkage, like a pdc or a canfield, not a demo or v10.

riggadon (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:44)

he said it looks like a demo or a vpp bike, not that it actually was the same linkage

GoxBoxSocks (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:52)

i see what he means with the v10 i guess but this bike looks nothing like a demo

kian (Feb 22, 2010 at 18:30)

omg! i just came in my pants! loving the team colors Big Grin

frshortstufffr (Feb 22, 2010 at 18:37) (Below Threshold) show comment

And here I was thinking that Turner got the liscence for DW...

urbanDJ5 (Feb 22, 2010 at 18:40)

thats awesome, i can see some similarities to the linkage system to those in demos also

Tobacco (Feb 23, 2010 at 9:38)

the linkage reminds me on the formula 1 jedi from the canfield brother

riggadon (Feb 23, 2010 at 9:42)

yea, but the wierd thing about the jedi is that it has 2 inches of rearward travel, and somnething like 8 inches downward travel. so it has a really different linkage, but looks the same

DolphinGiver (Feb 23, 2010 at 12:57)

This paint strip business will stop people trying to sell you wrong sized bikes too Really Mad

*I hope*

AC-92 (Feb 23, 2010 at 13:16)

the team colours on that frame is pure bike porno

GoxBoxSocks (Feb 23, 2010 at 16:15)

i like the white the best

nickf (May 18, 2010 at 13:10)

just ordered my own! (RAW/RED)

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ExCactus (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:03)

Banshee is making products that just scream quality right now. Stiff, strong, sexy to boot, and just oozing with quality down to the hardware choosing to go with titanium. I'm not sure why some people have their panties in a bundle over cost... Why would you expect a smaller company to go lower in cost than all of their competitors? This isn't Mongoose or Sette.

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madm3chanic (Feb 25, 2010 at 14:53)

ill get negative propped to hell for this no doubt, but it looks like a lower quality version than the first. the big chunks of ali around the shock used to be 100% cnc made, now it just looks like a big casting with the inside has been milled a bit. not that its necessarily any worse, its just a bit sad cause it was increadible what they did, given how much it cost, with the first one.

ctd07 (Feb 26, 2010 at 2:24)

they're forged apparently, still looks to have cnc work on the inside of the cradle though

madm3chanic (Feb 26, 2010 at 4:00)

yeah they'd have to do some CNC work on the inside to face up the pivots and stuff. its just a pitty, forging is nowhere near as nice or precise as CNC work. dont get me wrong, i think its still very nice, its just now its only in the same league to me as a giant or a sunday, where-as for the old frames i thought them up there with Nicolai, Racebike or Canfields.

but like i said, when i saw the price of the earlier CNC'd ones, i was genuinely amazed at how they could do it for that price (i know the cost of that shit as well as anyone, trust me)...and i guess i was correct at thinking that they couldnt.

on the upside, forging is only done for fairly large scale work, so it must mean that we're all gonna have the opportunity to try one at some point.

builttoride (Feb 27, 2010 at 2:30)

We could have stuck with the CNC machining on the basement, but it would have meant that the MRSP would have been about $3600 for frame and shock, due to price of the machining as you mentioned.

Forged material is also quite a bit stronger than machined material due to grain alignment that happens during forging process... so the forged parts are lighter, stronger and cost the customer less.

Forging can only be done to a certain thickness without compromising quality, so the foging is done acurately for external, and then internal is machined down from the slightly thicker base forging. This also increases precision of internal faces as you also mentioned.

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fugazzi (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:17)

The LEGEND looks great!!! For those of you knocking the Taiwanese made frames Giant spends 8% on Research and Development in a 60 billion dollar industry per year 5 billion is there take from what I researched. Who else does that? Have you seen GIANTS lineup this year? They have the latest, greatest, most sophisticated equipment to weld these frames together and make alot of frames for other companies as well not to mention any names. Giant also has bigger buying power in the industry which results in cheaper prices for better materials used to develop frames for you the consumer so be thankful you get quality for an awesome price!

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:21)

well said ...

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hampsteadbandit (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:36)

"yes lets compare a taiwan made frame to super exotic american brands what are imported to the uk in small numbers"

Legend is made in small numbers too - don't get "hung up" on 'where' its made - Taiwan is not actually as cheap as you might think Wink

we have only 6 Legends frames coming to the UK for the start of 2010 - hardly a big number?

"had something like 2500GBP in my mind.. without shock"

Legend is GBP£1999.99 with Fox RC4 shock, seatpost, seatclamp and pivot spares

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hampsteadbandit (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:11)

"it looks more like a copy of a specialized demo if you ask me they just changed the size of the like to make it look slightly different. thats it thats all"

Demo is FSR

Legend is virtual pivot

different suspension system Wink

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Caiokv (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:12)

must be more expensive than my house!!

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hampsteadbandit (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:48)

"just because one bike is overpriced doesnt mean another one has to be too

if they knocked that price down they would get much more people, if i had 2k to drop on a frame id go specialized because of the size of the company and the support they provide"

I would not say either the Legend or Demo are overpriced - compare their pricing to Santa Cruz's V-10 (£2600) or the Intense 951 (£2,300) in the UK

bear in mind, that Freeborn sells "direct" to customer, cutting out the "middleman", so that customers save about 1/3-1/4 compared to other 'brands' that have distribution to regular bike stores

if the Legend was sold at trade prices to bike shops, and then to customers you would be looking at a UK rrp of £2,500

its not a "cheap" frame to manufacture - if you want an affordable, quality bike get a Big Hit or Giant - if you want the exotic you pony up and get the Legend, V-10, M6/951, Evil, etc.

stryke Plus (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:20)

yes lets compare a taiwan made frame to super exotic american brands what are imported to the uk in small numbers D Big Grin

builttoride (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:18)

You are aware that V10's and Revolts are made in Taiwan yeah? Also the legend is made in way smaller numbers than any of the other frames mentioned.

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el-shreddo (Feb 23, 2010 at 8:15)

Looks awesome, the full build @ Vital MTB is very nice too. But srsly, if the TR450 is going to be cheaper, that´s the way to go. Loving the quality&service and all that from banshee, but what counts for most people is the price. 2000€ would be the absolute maximum I´d pay for that frame.

spaced (Feb 24, 2010 at 2:26)

The polish price is only a tad over it, doubt you find it for a lower price. Not many higher end dh frames below that price.(retail at least)

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dritgen (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:59)

So I Love banshee's but now knowing that they're manufactured in Taiwan is surprising, you'd think with the price of these bikes they would have them made at a local Canadian fabrication shop. I have nothing against this but that's why I own a Stab, manufactured somewhere else AND also much much cheaper. does anyone know if all frames are made in Taiwan or just the MKII???, is the Scythe made there as well?.

pslide (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:20)

All Banshee frames are made at a small high quality factory in Taiwan, the same place they make Canfield Bros and Evil Revolts.

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:53)

A good portion of all of the quality bicycles are made in Taiwan. I was surprised when I found out how many of the big brands are made there. Santa Cruz, Specialized ... and the list goes on and on. Chances are you are riding a bike that was made in Taiwan. And the frames that are produced in the USA ... good chance that the tubing for the frames came from Taiwan. And even if your frame did not come from Taiwan ... some of the components ... if not all of them were manufactured in Taiwan.

dritgen (Mar 12, 2010 at 17:27)

regardless, I still plan on getting a Scythe. love the way banshees ride

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ShopMechanic (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:58)

The black and white are both killer. The silver/red one... I applaud you doing something newish but it resembles a department store bike paint job. No offense, it just does.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/24-Boys-Power-Climber-Bike/2233451

raketa (Feb 23, 2010 at 17:18)

I do totally agree. That's why I bought black anodized Scythe. So called "Team" paintjob needs more polishing. There is no need to add more of everything, maybe "Team" could be a completely clean frame, like Amp.

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hampsteadbandit (Feb 24, 2010 at 2:35)

"Euros, not Pound, sweetheart."

ah shucks..no one has called me sweetheart for some years Wink

ok in Euros its €2277 (Stirling and Euro are almost at Parity compared to previous years)

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welshbnick (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:05)

taiwan is a newly industrialised contry or something i learnt it in geography haha. pretty wicked frame. from a distance it kinda reminds me of the evil revolt. and what a stunning frame to look like on a glance i say Razz

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collin7 (Feb 22, 2010 at 9:58)

The white and black schemes are so hot. The chrome just ruins it IMO. Great looking bike either way, curious to see how they do.

csucsnowman (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:51)

agreed, chrome always reminds me of wal-mart bikes. frames are looking sick tho

bigburd (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:12)

Exactly what I thought

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richiban (Feb 23, 2010 at 21:56)

Welds on the chrome frame are a little ugly / messy for a frame at that price point imo. Probably not a structural issue but those inconsistent beads are pretty obvious. Would like to see a little cleaner finish in the high-end market they're going after.

ctd07 (Feb 26, 2010 at 2:26)

my banshee's welded the same like this all over, its what you get when a bunch of chinese orphans weld your frame! :-@

It seems the average Banshee/Transition fan is like the average applemac/Ipod user, more concerned about image and glossy exteriors than quality and won't ever look closely at their frame :@ lol

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hucker13 (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:39)

I really like how accessible the shock remains while being cradled low in the frame...very nice. I'd love to swing a leg over one of these things sometime.

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nishnash (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:08)

Awesome looking frames! I dig the black and green...but the Team is slightly irresistible.
That sizing thing is going to make my life hella easy.

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Lordofdogtown (Feb 23, 2010 at 12:18)

I never gave a shit for Banshee but this frame looks sick! The design looks solid, low center to gravity and at all an unique look. In some ways a little bit of a Demo or the new Turner

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specializedfanatic (Feb 22, 2010 at 9:56)

that bike is amazing Drool

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hampsteadbandit (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:52)

but the frame is too expensive for a taiwan frame, even if the frame is one of the best on the market

its well in the pricing ballpark compared to many other bigger "brands", selling their Taiwanese DH race frames for the same, or even more money into the UK market

Specialized 2010 Demo II frame is £1999.99 in the UK

Legend Mk2 in the UK is also £1999, including Fox RC4 shock

the other Banshee suspension frames in the UK are typically selling around £1200 (Scythe, Spitfire, Rampant)

...it tells you something about the sheer amount of manufacturing time / cost, even in Taiwan that the Legend takes to make (for example the shock "canoe")

stryke Plus (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:41)

just because one bike is overpriced doesnt mean another one has to be too

if they knocked that price down they would get much more people, if i had 2k to drop on a frame id go specialized because of the size of the company and the support they provide

rdunnet (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:45)

have you ever emailed or tried to contact one of the bigger bike companies like specialized? it takes forever for them to get back to you ... if they ever do. With smaller companies like Banshee of Transition emails are answered within a couple of days ... and usually by someone who knows what they are talking about. From simple tech questions, request for stickers or something more complex the smaller companies are there for you. That is why I would pay for the quality and customer service you get from the smaller companies ...

kevinthelilbiker (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:55)

Banshees support is rediculously good in my experiences.
We had a question about my dads scythe and emailed banshees customer support and the next day Jay McNeil himself had emailed us back with the info we needed, why they made it that way for the scythe.
Another guy on mtbr found a small issue with his frame with wear conditions in his specific riding environment and banshee sent him a new frame with a custom fix to his problem.

... the specialized demo is a good bike but deffinatly not going to come with Ti hardware like this nor will it have the same amount of design and engineering behind it (this was a masters degree project to begin with!)

madocreg2 (Feb 22, 2010 at 19:03)

I have also had incredible customer service from banshee with a pyre frame.

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bigface (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:26)

weight is super light. go to the banshee website it says the weight i think. i think retail in canada is 3400 frame only not 100% though

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mitcht (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:22)

I road one of these bikes and did not like it at all... The linkage acts funny when you pedal it... Almost like the chain tension pushes the wheel down. Not a fan.

ianjanalex (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:55)

Not possible that you rode a MkII, there isn't one in Canada yet. You might have ridden a MkI. Many changes have been made. Can't wait to get our 8 together. Then we can compare at Moose

mitcht (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:04)

Yes... It was the MKI.

Didn't they keep the linkage system the same?

pslide (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:57)

The linkage design has a lot of anti-squat if you are running sag of 33% or less. Good for pedalling, but might feel funny if you're not used to it. The more sag you run, the less anti-squat you can feel. (I have a Mk1.)

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:58)

http://www.bansheebikes.com
http://www.bansheebikes.blogspot.com

ianjanalex (Feb 22, 2010 at 19:12)

Go to the blog page and read the article written by Keith Scott on the changes he made and why he made them. It's very interesting and informative.

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WAKIdesigns (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:59)

This is just beatiful. Dear bike industry: more of these please! It's great to hang an eye on such a great piece of engineery from time to time Big Grin

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bachkippe (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:30)

sick..
but the frame is too expensive for a taiwan frame, even if the frame is one of the best on the market.

mayhemsport (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:42)

Ehm. Almost every frame out there is made in Taiwan. And if its made in the Usa or somewhere else does not mean its better. Ill rather say its the same thing. Witch it is.

The frame goes for 3000us with rc4 shock.

Cant wait to get mine Big Grin

(black & green)

csucsnowman (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:52)

my Taiwanese Ironhorse Sunday has beautiful welding on it :b

bigburd (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:15)

backkippe was not suggesting any lack of quality on the taiwan built frames , I'm guessing hes meaning the price should be far lower as it will of been built at a very low cost , and he's right

builttoride (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:53)

Actually this frame costs a lot more than nearly every other frame priced at same level and higher. Taiwan is not cheap like China. The reason that so many bikes are made in taiwan is not due to price, but due to the fact that the industry is massive there and established. This means that they have all the tooling, skills and materials required for bike manufacture. There are many manufacturing processes and materials that taiwan are capable of that you cannot source in the wester world. Ever tried to source 7005 Aluminium that doesn't come from Taiwan or China? Tried getting hard anodising done in the west, it is not easy to come by.

I bet this frame costs twice as much as a V10 to manufacture.

freeride5 (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:07)

The reason of price for a taiwanese frame:These frames are built at pacific cycles a factory of legendary precision and quality. every legend frame is also hand inspected by Jay(the owner of banshee) he moved out to taiwan a couple months ago to supervise the building of these frames

freeride5 (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:10)

also these are made in small numbers and IT HAS BEEN IN TESTING FOR 4 YEARS

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dh--tom1 (Aug 7, 2010 at 11:34)

I think the bike looks awesome! I recently emailed Banshee and Rob Replied the next day.. excellent service! with other companies it take weeks to reply!

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hampsteadbandit (Feb 23, 2010 at 12:18)

"2000€ would be the absolute maximum I´d pay for that frame."

well the good news is that the Legend with Fox RC4 shock is GBP£1999 Wink

el-shreddo (Feb 23, 2010 at 13:06)

Euros, not Pound, sweetheart. And judging by current exchange rates it´s going to be significantly more than 2k€ Wink

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DamThatRiver (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:00)

Holy cow, these are friggin gorgeous! "DROOL" I wonder what the MSRP is?

Unhallowed (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:14)

$2999 USD frame only w/ a Fox RC4

DamThatRiver (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:52)

Well I can't say thats bad, but I can't say I'll ever pay that ahah.

Unhallowed (Feb 22, 2010 at 18:10)

If I had that much to spare I'd spend it... But I don't so I won't lol.

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mcrammerstein (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:39)

how are these "spy shots" if they are full on studio photography with banshee logos in the border?
other than that, neat-o.

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 20:09)

ha ha ha, i was not supposed to post them, the shots were for the website

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Willie1 (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:28)

These frames are 9.5 lbs with a steel spring. It is a race frame, not a freeride frame. Banshee makes some of the best frames out there, but they have serious issues with supply and distribution.

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bikinbeast (Feb 23, 2010 at 18:01)

Team Geronimo just finished their 2010 rides . . .

--> Check it out here --

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MooMoo2323 (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:46)

looks awesome...but does it look like the seat tube needs more reinforcement at the top tube junction? idk.

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bachkippe (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:32)

had something like 2500GBP in my mind.. without shock. 2000 with dhx rc4 is good of course.

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nsbichboy (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:06)

Oh my S$#T this bike is POOORRRNNN Razz

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ustemuf Plus (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:05)

when bruce willis was dead at the end of sixth sense.

saso (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:43)

i jizzed in my pants... lol

just the frames make my pc wet of drool

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reecewallace Plus (Feb 23, 2010 at 14:45)

banshee got real sick real fast.

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quango2k (Feb 24, 2010 at 11:49)

very nice..rather a transition tr450 tho

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ctd07 (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:45)

wow, the Banshee reps are all over this page trying to 'correct' peoples pov's about cost/taiwan etc. Man it looks so unprofessional!

I just sure hope Banshee have improved the design of their pivot housings as the bearings clamped against nylon bushings to tighten them on my banshee them is pretty damn lame - and certainly doesn't allow the linkage to be responsive enough for dh use!

I think the frame looks nice, albeit a near copy of an Iron Horse or Karpiel linkage design, but up close that horrible mass/mess of welding is sure to crack pretty soon, hope they've got a good warrantee dept! :-)

builttoride (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:18)

yup, design has changed, pivots are totally floating, not friction between links or anything.

You are entitled to you opinion, thats cool.

pslide (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:20)

Ha! Since when are reps responding to people's questions unprofessional?

And do you know of any other companies that put 50 prototypes in riders hands for over a year before releasing to the public? If you follow the blog, this is a very transparent company...

rdunnet (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:57)

banshee has always been honest about were their product is made. i think it is time for some other brands (not just frames) to step up and be honest about where their product is coming from.

phobospwns (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:00)

Don't you realize that despite the fact that a bike may have the same linkage as another, it can feel completely different. Pivot location and linkage shape can change the wheel path, leverage ratios at certain travel lengths etc; which alters the feel of the suspension. There are tons of virtual pivot bikes out there: vpp, maestro, dw, etc., but all of those bikes perform differently. Not to mention differences in weight, headtube geo, chain stay length, seat tube angl, bb height and so on. So even if the suspension type is the same as many others, it's certainly not a "copy". Oh, and it's spelled warranty by the way.

ctd07 (Feb 22, 2010 at 21:22)

psilde - my pov is more along the lines that by banshee's quibbling with the average pinkbike user makes them look like a backyard project trying desparately to gain some credential for how they do things, any person with an ounce of common sense knows that the whole made in Taiwan over made in 'our' country debate will never end [ever thought that Taiwanese people might have pride in things made in their country?] so joining the debate is pretty naive and IMO, looks bad for the company - if people have questions, then they should talk directly to banshee.

builttoride - glad to hear you changed the bearing design, do the mk2's have a forged or cnc'd shock cradle? - p.s. glad to see you got rid of the machining lines in the milled cradle pockets, IMO they just made the frame look like it had only been rough cut and botched out the factory in a hurry - looks much better now!

deanw (Feb 22, 2010 at 22:08)

The shock cradle on the Legend MKII is 3D forged in separate pieces and then welded together. The pieces of the shock cradle on the Legend MKI were machined and welded.

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bordom (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:08)

your spy got really close Ninja

.... definitely a nice bike

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:48)

they actually left me in a room with two frames and their camera. my camera ran out of batteries ... when i finished shooting I found a bunch of other pictures on the memory card ... including the third color option ... so I borrowed them for a little bit

bordom (Feb 22, 2010 at 20:12)

good job in your sneakiness

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mayacorps (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:09)

Dad game it ! This baby is damn - hotttt ! I'll trade my complete Gambler ( I'll only keep my Hopes Moto V2 ) for this beauty Smile

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dag-yo (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:44)

It lists from $2900 to $2999 USD suggested retail, but retailers will likely sell for a little less. Such a bad ass bike!

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johnyredbull (Feb 22, 2010 at 9:56)

nar thats a beast, loving the suss n the team red with the polishing looks sweet

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andyn (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:29)

ooo I need to change my pants

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palin Plus (Feb 22, 2010 at 21:26)

That white one is f*cking vicious.

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Kondasaurus (Feb 22, 2010 at 18:31)

Those things are f***ing gorgeous XD

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DHmental (Feb 23, 2010 at 3:50)

BA! love the green and black that's a new color for banshee.

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KangarooCZ (Feb 23, 2010 at 9:48)

The frame is so nice in silver-red colour :-) I like look on it :-D

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samrawwr (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:27)

DAYUM!

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Manetherin (Feb 22, 2010 at 18:31)

Team red looks absolutely incredible

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mountainMURDOCH (Feb 28, 2010 at 9:47)

can i have a black one please.

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dirty-fecker (Feb 23, 2010 at 8:18)

That's my definition of "Modern Art" !!!

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dillon425 (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:03)

how much does it weigh in at?

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DHDeanO (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:15)

Top notch fabrication. Blk and grn is mint!!

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adamquinn (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:35)

wow i want one so bad. the black and green looks real badass

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sandford3503 (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:16)

Banshee is so amazing, Like the banshee amp my favorite.

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:49)

i love my banshee amp ... great for pretty much everything

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vortexian (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:16)

mmm nice range, like to see one built

spankthewan (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:41)

Check it: http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Bike-Check-Graeme-Pitts-Banshee-Legend-MK-II,1104/Slideshow,4464/sspomer,2

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mexfreeride (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:00)

black frame made me drool

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JEFF231 (Feb 22, 2010 at 18:07)

doesnt look too different from the mk1, still looks great though!

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aenema (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:47)

It looks pregnant to me. Saying nothing for ride as I have not been on one but I don't get the drool factor over the looks of the frame. Quality and craftsmanship=yes, looks=no

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eder Plus (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:29)

Banshee are nice, but they haven't personality. Just erase the logos and nobody will identify the next year Banshee. I would love to see the evolution of scream, but they killed it.

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:55)

The next year Banshee? For the past several years their frame designs have not changed ... look at the Amp, Wildcard, Scythe ... they have not changed. And can be recognized in pictures and video popping up all over the internet.

http://www.bansheebikes.com
http://www.bansheebikes.blogspot.com

This is the new banshee ...

martins (Feb 22, 2010 at 19:02)

An evolution of the Scream, are you kidding, I guess it worked for the time back when 'hucking' was the thing to do, but seriously...
...that is like asking for the evolution of a Hummer, it's dead and gone man!

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IH4LIFE (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:02)

Someone help me on this wasnt the MKII a bike made by ironhorse i swear it was.

spankthewan (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:40)

It was the MKIII. Come on Banshee, put your letters together and make a more memorable and unique name... Abysmal, for instance.

mayhemsport (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:43)

Nope. Maybe your'e thinking of something else. This is pure banshee.

bige1 (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:19)

It's called "Legend"

spankthewan (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:30)

They didn't have to add the MKII, though.

diroc (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:56)

Why not? It's not as though "MKII" is random... it stands for Mark 2, which means it's the second incarnation of the Legend frame.

spankthewan (Feb 22, 2010 at 22:01)

Because of what has happened here: Brand confusion and a stigma that may be associated with other cheaper MK___ bikes. It's a bike...no need to tell us about its displacement or any other pointless information.

bige1 (Feb 23, 2010 at 11:59)

It is not pointless if they have changed things since the last model. Secondly, it is their bike and they can call it "Legend MK II Spongebob Square pants on fire versus giant donkey" if they want.

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gustofwind (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:38)

reallllllllllllly diggin the black and green

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fantaman (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:52)

Sure this is 1 of the hottest frames of 2010,banshee did a great job

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Stayonyourbike29 (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:59)

White one is the best, YAGA!

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dirtjumper169 (Feb 22, 2010 at 18:01)

so nice i want one really bad

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xXiRideXx (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:24)

The green one is a beauty.

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djbruno (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:02)

the white one is really nice!!!

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ROL-ANDO (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:28)

For me withe , love how the bike look in bike , ccdb butthaa

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freighttrain123 (Feb 22, 2010 at 20:45)

oooooooooo!!!!

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dirtjumper771 (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:39)

i think im in love...

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arkadius (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:17)

next frame will be banshee (black green) awesome

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johnyredbull (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:00)

noticed the lack of bushes on the shock axel, lol, beast of bike Smile

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EddB (Feb 27, 2010 at 6:25)

the chrome colour scheme looks like something you would buy from argos..

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Sean115 (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:01)

Suspension design looks cool. The white one is stylish!

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manmearpig (Feb 22, 2010 at 19:30)

noice

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JacReed (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:02)

Miiiint!

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u-no-it (Feb 22, 2010 at 19:11)

that looks amazing!!!!!!

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Steezyfreerider (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:13)

sexy

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marlon-d (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:51)

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thejpn (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:03)

Look so good...

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rockhopper15 (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:22)

i wonder how much rear travel is accomplished from a shock with that small of a stroke?

mayhemsport (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:37)

As i told a guy above. It has a 9.5" shock. And has 8" of travel. What are you even complaining about.

pslide (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:18)

This bike has a 3" stroke shock, and with 8" travel it yields a relatively low leverage ratio (2.7:1).

mayhemsport (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:41)

I used a 300lb spring with my 75ish kg's, for pure dh. 350 for fr. So yes, the leverage is low. Witch is good for making the shock last longer due to less stress on the shock.

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bomberek888 (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:03)

amazing frames
Big Grin

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dunks95 (Feb 22, 2010 at 9:58)

perfection Smile

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danimalbeastwood (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:04)

the shock looks really short

mayhemsport (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:35)

It is 9.5" so its not short.

EasyKillah (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:16)

it's missing the bottom reducers too

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cougar797 (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:54)

is that a 1.5 headtube?

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:59)

yes, for more information

http://www.bansheebikes.com
http://www.bansheebikes.blogspot.com

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caron633 (Feb 22, 2010 at 9:59)

REALLLLY NICE

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Zbrodniciel (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:08)

weight?

DamThatRiver (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:13)

Less then a Sunday.

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Zbrodniciel (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:31)

that was precise as hell.... :/

home-team (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:39)

for more information, weights, geometry ...
http://www.bansheebikes.com
http://www.bansheebikes.blogspot.com

DamThatRiver (Feb 22, 2010 at 16:53)

I do try

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saso (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:43)

love the looks of it...

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mag86 (Feb 22, 2010 at 10:57)

it looks more like a copy of a specialized demo if you ask me they just changed the size of the like to make it look slightly different. thats it thats all

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pslide (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:16)

Dude, the optician called, time to schedule an appointment.

mayhemsport (Feb 22, 2010 at 11:29)

Jupp. You def need to check your'e eyes. Nothing there similar to the demos.

johnyredbull (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:13)

not half !

spesh is a horst link, and these are more like a dw link or maestro or equilink etc for a start

Alekoubas (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:22)

well, considering the were both designed to be ridden by human beings, you could say there are a few similarities between the two frames....

mtbdarren318 (Feb 22, 2010 at 15:48)

Yeah i was wondering if you have ever seen a demo

GoxBoxSocks (Feb 22, 2010 at 17:46)

yep. johnnys right... i think its called parallel link.

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jinx (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:02)

Bit bad placing of the shock?

mayhemsport (Feb 22, 2010 at 12:46)

Its a good placement of the shock. It makes the frameweight more centered and lower. It makes it easier to move around. Trust me, i have had the mk1.

jinx (Feb 22, 2010 at 13:58)

Considering center of gravity yes, considering maintenance and wear on bushings, no. I'd rather have a somewhat higher center of gravity than having to replace the mounting hardware every 2 weeks. Just iagine how much dust, dirt and mud that will find it's way to the mounting. Same with the old Commencal, they should've fixed that issue in some way.

builttoride (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:16)

The shock is actually pretty well protected by the shock basement for frame mounting, and the link mounted end is protected by the plate between the rear tiangle struts pretty well when under sag. It has been tested for well over a year and no complaints at all yet from any testers.

mayhemsport (Feb 22, 2010 at 14:38)

I should know if what youre saying "jinx" is correct. Witch it isnt. All of the frame links and the rear swingarm pluss all of the things on the frame above the canoe stops most of the mud. I never ever had to think about much mud on the shock when i rode on the muddiest of days here. Trust me, their is not much mud hitting that shock, or bushings. I didnt even have to change out the original bushings out when i sold the mk1. They where smooth and good as new. And that was from over half a year of muddy and rainy riding. Our town is known for its plenty of rain all year. And if it comes mud in that area, the mud easily slides out the bottom of the canoe.

And if you want things even cleaner, you can do the same thing as the sicklines guys did on their mk1 on the rear swingarm, to protect the lower link from mud.

jinx (Feb 23, 2010 at 12:00)

Dude check the rear mount of the shock, if that isn't unprotected I'll call myself a gummi bear. That mount is less protected than the one on the old Commencals and those had some serious trouble with mud, dust and sand getting inside the mount and ruining the bushings and mounting hardware. It's still a sick frame, and will most probably be my next frame but I'm just pointing out that the mount is unprotected. Same with the new turner dhr.

I can only talk about here in Sweden, and since it rains almost all the time during the summer people need bikes which have better protected mounts.

builttoride (Feb 23, 2010 at 12:22)

I ride in muddy Scotland on my legend, and can't say I have once ever had to clear gunk away from the shock. The plate in the rear triangle stops all mud spraying off tire into the shock.

spaced (Dec 7, 2010 at 16:48)

After 1 year I can assure you - you talked out of your ass. I rode in flood, I rode in dust. No problems at all.

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